tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11006198.post113163950943507277..comments2023-08-24T06:39:31.113-04:00Comments on Preacher Thoughts: Pastor: Do you preach to the children?Paulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13529451903923820189noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11006198.post-1134766138742928872005-12-16T15:48:00.000-05:002005-12-16T15:48:00.000-05:00Hi Brad! Nice to see you dipping your toes into th...Hi Brad! Nice to see you dipping your toes into the blogosphere... although that sure is a weird title to your blog!!!<BR/><BR/>Well, you are equating my <I>preaching to children</I> with <I>Sunday School.</I> I am not.<BR/>I see them as different birds... and am arguing in this post for an inclusion of children to the preaching ministry. Sunday School is something entirely else and has nothing to do with this post.<BR/>As for doctrines, I could have made my list a mile long! Again, you draw a distinction that I don't. Teaching the kids under my charge about love <B>is</B> teaching doctrine. But I am hopefully framing it in the context of the Scripture in which it is found. <BR/>In other words, Ephesians 5 has a ton to say about love... but it follows Ephesians 1-4. Children are no different than us in their need to understand the indicative prior to the imperative. Now, how I explain Eph 1:1-14 to a child may differ significantly from how I would explain it to a 50 year old seminary student... but it is my duty to preach to both in a way that both can understand. And understanding that glorious passage does so much to inform our understanding of Biblical love!<BR/>I just want churches to think about why they do what they do. Why get rid of the kids from worship and preaching if that is what they are going to do the rest of their lives if God graciously saves them?<BR/>Just some thoughts...Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13529451903923820189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11006198.post-1131675419886326862005-11-10T21:16:00.000-05:002005-11-10T21:16:00.000-05:00Amen and amen. Great comments by all too. Was chur...Amen and amen. Great comments by all too. Was church not supposed to be a family thing? Then why do we come to church to have our family broken up so much that no two of us are in a room together. <BR/><BR/>And you couldn't be more right about the children's story simply being a platform for the pastor showing off how "witty" he can be. I hate it.Julian Freemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16090211379574469969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11006198.post-1131660080090263362005-11-10T17:01:00.000-05:002005-11-10T17:01:00.000-05:00Thanks for that exhortation. We make sure we take...Thanks for that exhortation. We make sure we take our children to the worship service and are frequently amazed at what our five-year old retains. It's great to hear pastors like yourself and John Piper encouraging parents to have children take part in worship services and encouraging pastors to preach to children.Dan Sudfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07427158443777229994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11006198.post-1131652665832454662005-11-10T14:57:00.000-05:002005-11-10T14:57:00.000-05:00As a boy I grew up in a church where "JR Church" w...As a boy I grew up in a church where "JR Church" was very popular. Unfortunately I look back and I don't think it really did any good for me or any of the other children that were apart of it. All I really remember from it is eating animal crackers, drinking apple juice and singing Father Abraham. When I graduated from JR Church it was a nightmare because I didn't want to attend church that was ,in my mind at the time, boring. I never payed any attention to the sermons because I had no reason to, I wasn't getting any juice or crakers and we weren't singing Father Abraham. Instead I would draw pictures and ask my mom "how many minutes until church is over?" and then "how many seconds is that". <BR/><BR/>I don't intend to take a stab at churches that do have JR Church but I really think people need to reconsider this whole "little people church" idea. I work at a Christian bookstore and there aren't many Children's products that are very deep. Most of them have short lessons telling them that Jesus loves them(nothing about sin or judgement) and usually consist of some kind of craft that gets thrown out as soon as the kid gets home. <BR/><BR/>Jesus taught to Children and he did a very good job at it. He incorporated it into his sermons to grown ups as well. He didn't send them off to learn "light doctrines". Last Sunday I was having trouble staying focussed but when Paul addressed the Children it made me understand some of the main points. <BR/><BR/>Something that we also have to remember is that Children are saved no differently than us adults. They need to understand the fundamentals just like we do. There is no Christianity Lite for anyone. I really appreciate a sermon that helps Children and people with Child-like minds to understand. Wow I can't believe my rambling. Hehehehehehehe....Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16427569414640587844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11006198.post-1131648873297341702005-11-10T13:54:00.000-05:002005-11-10T13:54:00.000-05:00I do have to say that was one of the things that d...I do have to say that was one of the things that drew me to Grace Fellowship Church (among other things). It is amazing to see and hear how the children (and us adults) remember and can understand sometimes deep concepts using simple illustrations. I think its a wonderful way to teach and to plant the Word of God within us. Also, it give us all as Christians opportunities to get to know one another, to encourage and remind each other of Christ! <BR/><BR/>Twin#2TwinsK&Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07930553068660809799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11006198.post-1131646913069374382005-11-10T13:21:00.000-05:002005-11-10T13:21:00.000-05:00How tremendously important this is!! Paul, your s...How tremendously important this is!! Paul, your stories and comments to the kids stick remarkably well. And they give we the parents (us the parents?) a chance to reinforce those points over the week.<BR/><BR/>Just ask our kids about the servant who died when he belonged to the evil master so the good master to bring him to life, the soldier who dropped the evil lord's weapons for the good Lord's, the man in the red cap who pays the parking tickets, etc.<BR/><BR/>And in terms of handling theological concepts, we are continuously surprised by the ability of the kids. All those things Paul mentioned (Trinity, grace, sin, etc.) are not a problem. We're working through the Westminster Shorter Catechism (using the P&R book "Teaching hearts, training minds") and what a wonderful foundation that provides for the kids.<BR/><BR/>Preachers, preach to the children! Parents, disciple your children! It's your responsibility and will be your joy!Tom Geehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15363329987895368813noreply@blogger.com